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rolo
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Posted: 04 Aug 09 at 22:03 |
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yes and answers your question Edited by rolo - 04 Aug 09 at 22:22 |
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The way i'm reading that, the guy is suggesting that if he bought a vw recon aaz engine it would have the later tdi arrangemnet installed. The article is dated 2005. So he's not saying that late aaz's had the modification back in the mid 90's. He's saying that if he bought a vw sourced "new" aaz in 2005 hed get the tdi upgrade on it. He believes that "new engines and reman engines are both coming with......"
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Yeah i was thinking that too about removing bottom pulley fro belt change. the plastic shrouding is a pain i guess if you cant get down there, but belt does slide i around it. Maybe on a golf the bottom pulley is close to chassis leg making it difficult to pass a new belt down onto the pulley? I think on the van i'd be taking the silencer off.
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Syncro doka td
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rolo
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Got a clutched pulley on mine, was on the 97 aef, looked but never seen one on an early tdi. What did happen was lads and some who should have known better, thought that, that was the way to remove the belt. I remember seeing serious heat and impact guns at work by SOWSKB.
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russel at syncronutz
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First big mistake in that link is having to remove the main sprocket to do the timing belt.
You do not have to disturb the main sprocket or undo the main bolt in order to do the timing belt. Russel
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timmythedog
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Well I must say that is quite fascinating, and not something i was aware of. So is there any potential for fiiting this type of alternator pullet to an aaz??? Is this infact what you will find on a tdi engine? Did VW actually go with this?
Regarding the tdi crank nose issue, he is a little vague on that, ie; he says" if he got the story right", or something like that, so was not certain they had improved late aaz's in that way, just thought he understood that to be the case. Good read though.
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rolo
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http://www.utterpower.com/vw_1_9_td.htm. Not the only place I`ve read it. Sin a pic, I think it was on gtd. But never actually seen one. I always stand to be wrong and corrected. I`ve read it enough to think it common knowledge. I do go overboard on the reading and don`t believe all of it.
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timmythedog
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Okay, like the ones I bought from you a couple of weeks ago, I hope! Thought I better get in there and swap it for peace of mind. Nice one.
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Later AAZ's do not have a TDI style crank, they mearly have a different bolt fitted. |
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timmythedog
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Cheers Rolo, and everyone else. As Monsho said, it's been done time and again, but my theory is that as miles and years are clocked up, peoples knowledge, and therefore opinions and conclusions are evolving and changing. that is clearly the case, as there still seems to be some passion in the debate. Rolo, I know you don't want to talk about this anymore, but I would love to know, if anyone can tell me, what constitutes a late AAZ, and therefore one that might have an improved crank/pulley..? Is the evidence clear at the crank nose, or engine codes, later pulleys, different electrics on the pump? Mines from a mid 94 Cordoba. That's pretty late I guess.
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rolo
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Later aaz,1y, aef have tdi type cranks, my engine revolves on one, its an aef. This is the last time i`ll write this coz it must be on a search by now and it`s boring or I am, and old and grumpy and it`s raining and paint blooms this weather and there`s stuff to do that just doesn`t involve rain and watching it and pc`s. AND there`s aazs that aren`t gutless, better go now before I start reading about 300bhp 1y,s
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Baxter
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Depends if you want it right or not, fairly pointless putting TDI on a standard box as it will go about 65 flat out, all power much further down rev range meaning either a taller 5th or best way is a new ring and pinion but to change that you have to completely strip the box.
I've seen cheap TDI's they are well funny!
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Beelzibus
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Like I said, excluding those who pay others to do all the work for them. ;)
Surely there are plenty of TDIs running around sensibly enough without having spent £1500 on gearbox parts alone? |
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Baxter
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labour and parts?
TDI there is at least £1500 to spend on the gearbox alone.
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Beelzibus
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Forgetting those that pay others to do everything for them, I can't see how an AAZ swap could swallow 2K, let alone 5K for a TDI, the donor cars are all cheap as nowadays.
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Baxter
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AAZ is Easy (cheap)
TDI isn't that easy (expensive)
That's what usually makes the decision for you.
AAZ will work with standard box, TDI will also, really badly though.
AAZ Conversion cost all in under 2 grand.
TDI Conversion probably around 5 grand.
If the van is only worth 3 grand would you spend 5 on a engine conversion?
Didn't think so.
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BUS.BOY
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i am getting about 400 miles from a tank on a run but i have a longer diff and fifth gear fitted, and my
e.c.u is chipped !
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Beelzibus
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My concern with the 2.5 TDI 5 pot from the Audi is that they weren't that frugal (for a diesel) in the cars they were fitted to. What mpg are you getting in a T3?
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i agree with your neighbour ! |
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