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VWlewis
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mrhutch
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Anyone got any knowledge about auto transmissions? Could an auto box be flipped in the same way?
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ronnus
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Tim,
Thanks for the answer om my question about the Seat AFN clutch. The starter ring is on the wrong site of the clutch, at the gearbox site. So if i go for this project i need another clutch. I think the most tdi engines of the golf style havethis problem. Maybe there is another small problem, the flywheel of the current clutch is fitted with 6 bolts to the crankshaft, what i have seen is that a passat clutch has 8 or 10 bolts. So they will not fit, evenso the size is a passat clutch is 240 mm. Are there suitable clutches with 6 boltholes and size 240 mm to fit the upsitedown gearbox? regards ron
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@ hutch. I'm sure I've read somewhere that the auto boxes don't need flipping as the have drop gears in the back of th box that can be swapped about to revers the action of the box.
This has crossed my mind as a possible syncro option as the auto box may be a substitute for the g gear Lee |
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VW Nerd
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All of the Passat / Audi A4 clutches from the AFN (110hp) engine range have the 6 bolt fixing. If you source your engine and gear box from the same car then you don't need to worry about swapping to the correct style. All transverse engines will have the ring gear on the wrong end of the fly wheel, So go with a fly wheel from the inline gear box for the correct starter ring gear position.
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jc_geddes
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Tim,
you finished the first one yet? Have you driven it? Is the gear change cable or rod? The shift pattern - I am assuming from you like picture that the H is the correct way around, and not upside down or back to front. Progress report please.
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VW Nerd
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Not finished yet Not driven it yet Gear change rod type All gears as per the Audi. The correct way around. |
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
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youthy giblets
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glad to see someones actually put this idea into use on a T3, famous phil was threatening to do this about 18months ago but never got round to doing so, at the time we decided that with an AFN the 5 speed boxes would be geared well for a T3 but i still think a 130tdi will pull a 6speed ok in a tin top t3. keep up the good work Jon
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VW Nerd
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Drove the bus today!
On the hole a good drive for a first outing. Need to make the oil stay in the gear box. I guess that my breather hole is to big. Plus the gear lever moves to far in my opinion from left and right, so some fine tuning needed there tomorrow. DVX code gear box with 185 14 tyres gives 77mph @ 3000 and 90mph @ 3500. At the bottom end 1st gear 1000rpm=6mph. Tim.
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Nice work Tim.
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Good to see its nearly there Tim
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All done and working well. New gear box breather and modified gear linkage now fitted.
My customer is collecting his bus tomorrow, with plans for quite a road trip. Maybe he will be along soon with some feed back, once he has clocked up some miles. |
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fufflenarnia
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That's great news Tim.
Are you confident enough to put together and start selling a kit? What is your time scale? - it would be great to have one off you for a winter project - I can add it to my list of to do's! I have an agg engine from a golf with a jx flywheel - i am intreagued as to what starter motor I would need? Edited by fufflenarnia - 21 Jul 12 at 08:05 |
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I don't know what fly wheel types are fitted to the petrol engine, but with the diesel you a choice of a single or dual mass flywheel. I suggest that you get one of these and a starter from the Audi A4 or Passat.
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youthy giblets
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good work tim, nice to no there will soon be another t3 gearbox option available. Did you fill with more oil than standard a4/passat amount then? Driveshaft flanges appear to be standard T3 units, i guess you made a hybrid by machining and welding the A4 and T3 flanges together? When phil and i looked at doing this it was an easier solution than adaptor plates but we questioned the reliability of doing it that way. never stripped the t3 box an further to see if any of the deeper internal components (drive flange to diff) were suitable to use.....think we started on the Gp and forgot all about it. I expect the van was a pleasure to drive with a modern feeling smooth gearbox?
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youthy giblets
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Tim just out of interest is the gearbox you are using the same as the passat one we looked at flipping, as when i removed the drive flanges from the passat box it appeared to be a complete splined shaft (that fiits into diff) with the drive flange on the opposite end. If so have you had to fabricate a new splined shaft to link the diff to the T3 drive flange or have you again used T3 or off the shelf vw parts??
Be nice to have such a conversion that uses all off the shelf vag parts as you said earlier, if something gives abroad it can be a pain in the arseespecially if you have to try and get something fabricated
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