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Reefbeach
Newbie Joined: 10 Aug 13 Location: Chepstow Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Hi T5,
I’ve managed to figure out the problem in that I had over compensated with the link on the out handle. This was stopping the lock properly resetting. I managed to get the inner oval off and get my hand in to pull the mechanism back. This was more luck than judgement. I’ve now reset it and it works fine (I got lucky me thinks). It was very awkward working in that area. Thanks for all your advice. Onto the next problem now in that the dreaded yellow triangle light has appeared on the dash and the diagnostics test doesn’t recognise a proper fault. The air con has also packed in and seems to be leaking. It’s turning out to be one of those summers!! |
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T5 TDI
Vanorak Joined: 05 Nov 05 Status: Offline Points: 3687 |
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It sounds like the lock is in the double locked position so the inner handle won't ever open it. It will move but it won't release the lock. You can only to open it either via the key or remote. Have you tried the key?
You could try taking the battery lead off for 15 mins. I don't suppose you can get at all the bolts to get the metal panel off again?
If none of these things works the only thing I can think of is to get someone with VCDS diagnostics to enable the anti-hijack function and make sure to also tick the box that says 'Open Doors On Key Removal'. If the fault is mechanical and within the lock it won't work, but there is a small possibility if it's electrical that a different signal to the lock (from the ignition switch) might do it. One final question. Do your locks normally all open with one press of the remote? Or like delhill's post above? Edited by T5 TDI - 10 Aug 18 at 08:57 |
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Reefbeach
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Hi, thanks for the ideas but still no joy. It’s as if the actual teeth will not release the door, even though the central locking system unlocks. When I pull the cables to open the door nothing happens.
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T5 TDI
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Hi Reef, do you have a key slot in the handle on your van? If so try that. Otherwise try slapping the door in the lock area with a palm as you operate the fob repeatedly.
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Reefbeach
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Hi, I’ve just fitted one of these eBay locks. It was a bit tricky. I thought I would try it before fitting the door card. Big mistake as now the lock has jammed shut and I can’t open the door (Drivers side). I would be really grateful for any advice on how to open the door. The actuator is responding to the remote but the lock will not open. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in anticipation of someone knowing how to get me out of this mess.
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T5 TDI
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Thanks. I'll see how mine works when/if I need to replace it.
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Delfhill
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It seems to work exactly as the original. I never had the "one press unlocks all doors"option, it has always been one press opens the drivers door, second press opens all doors. The construction of the lock appears identical to the original except there is no VW logo on. It is guaranteed for one year so hopefully it will be decent quality.
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T5 TDI
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Does it still work the same as the original delfhill? I only ask because I read a couple of posts where people were saying the new ebay locks worked strangely. I have a theory that this is because the ebay locks are set to factory codings and when fitted to a van were the options have previously been changed they don't quite understand their new home!
Assuming your new lock works ok can you check if you have the 'one press unlocks all locks' option or does one press open the drivers door only? (Two presses to open all doors).
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Delfhill
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Just replaced my driver's side lock with a ebay sourced item,
£23.99. Works well, but a real pain to fit. Could probably do it in half the time now having done it once. I followed the threads on here which were a great help.
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T5 TDI
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You can get dirt cheap locks on ebay now. I bought one because my drivers side lock started mucking about but it's cured itself for now. It certainly looks pretty good quality. I think it was about 26 UKP.
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Happy Yellow
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Hi all
I had this problem with my driver's door in February. I ended out replacing the lock unit (€150). Now the passenger's side has started playing up. Seems these lock units have a limited life built into them! Very accurate engineering VW! Looks like I'll be spending another €150 Rupert Edited by Happy Yellow - 22 Jul 18 at 20:47 |
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sbennetts
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Hi there, did you get anywhere? I've got the same issue. Crimp joint is fine - still cannot get door open. Tried a number of suggestions including thumping the door around the lock area whilst pressing the unlock on the fob, WD40 everywhere and just keep firing the unlock button at it - all to no avail.
Car in for an MOT in the next week and need it open. Someone must have something for us? I've also tried removing the door card without being able to unlock the door but cannot get the step for the trim out to get to the bottom screws. What about the little grommet at the back of the door, I can see a T3 (or 20) bolt in there - is that a magic bolt that makes everything better? Thanks Simon
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wigwam
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So far, in pursuit of the passenger door not unlocking problem, I've taken the top part of the driver's side seat off to investigate. VW seem to have made that harder than need be. eg. two different types of fasteners - the two rear fasteners holding the seat in place, use an odd spline type allen key to undo, and the other two fasteners at the front - a standard hexagonal nut coming away from a fixed bolt. Anyway, with the top part of the seat off, I cut away all the black cloth tape from the bundle of wires leading from the junction of wires box, down to the floor mat. There I came upon a join in the blue and red striped wire, under some insulating tape. A strange looking spliced join was revealed when I cut away the insulating tape. No sign of corrosion. This join, is a pressed join with the copper looking bright and shining. One wire leading from the join goes nowhere - it has a clean cut and taped end as if to make it available for some feature on other models. So no corroded join. As thing are, passengers still enter via the sliding door and then between the seats.
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T5 TDI
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Good one The plastic tab on my fuel flap however has been missing for about 10 years since it disappeared one day. I did wonder if the flap would open at high speed but it never has. The connection is fairly straightforward. I took the seat out on mine which is surpringly heavy. You also need to undo the bolts on the handbrake lever, the plastic cover for this has a little secret button that releases it. |
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wigwam
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My VW T5 2005 model, has just (Nov 2017) started up with what seems to be a well known "can't unlock the passenger door" problem. Because of the situation being urgent, and I needed to fuel to complete a delivery job, I decided to cut through the small plastic tab which holds the fuel flap tethered to the passenger door - thus allowing me to fill up with fuel. I'll figure out if the wiring corrosion problem is at fault as soon as I get the chance. But I mention this to say you don't need to mark the exterior of the van in any way to pass a mini - hacksaw blade through the small gap between the fuel flap and the passenger door.
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gasone
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I have had this problem myself now for over 6 months I did think of changing the lock but decided on getting a proper auto electrician , he removed the door panel and put a gadget on 3 wires that tell me when the door is locking that turns the neon red for a second or green when it opens , unfortunately it hasn't failed properly since
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Stryne
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Welcome damovdv,
by your description it looks like no power getting to the lock actuator for whatever reason, or the lock motor has given up, here are a few links to articles, etc, that might be of help - happyhooker's thread Rebuild's article T5TDI's article energysolutions multi-page thread an Aussie one - sunny43.5's article or paste this line into Google search passenger door site:http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum for more results |
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damovdv
Newbie Joined: 02 Feb 17 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Did you get a resolve for this problem?
I have checked the splice and it was good. Re soldered it anyway but my passenger door still wont open on fob. I can unlock it manually from inside and have to lock it manually. I cant even hear a hint of the door mechanism trying to unlock on the fob either. Any other ideas while I have the matt out? All other doors lock and unlock on fob everytime. Would greatly appreciate some insight and dont want to go to vw for this. I am bleeding enough money already with the conversion. Edited by damovdv - 02 Feb 17 at 22:04 |
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mattpalmer83
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Well bought myself some triple square bits, took the seat out, strpped back the cables and there was some green corrosion on the crimp. Not the worst example I have seen but some. Joint has now been re-done
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gregozedobe
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Yep, T5's use lots of triple-square bolts, and smaller fasteners are often 6 point torx.
Edited by gregozedobe - 12 Aug 13 at 17:04 |
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