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All pipes to/from fuel tank are new and tight on, carb isn't loose, the flap in carb opens and closes as I pull the choke in and out.

Had a look and there's no condenser on the dizzy.

The farmer took pity on me tonight while I was staring in to the carb forlornly and offered to take it for a drive to see what he thought- being more mechanically minded than me he is more clear about what is actually happening. 
He said it's actually just cutting out suddenly, but as I'm driving along when it does it, it bump starts it'self with the momentum which is why I feel like it's spluttering and kangerooing along.

When he got back it did it while it was idling and it just stops but will restart again straight away.
He said it's not misfiring and he thinks it must be electrical but not sure what. He did notice the coil is very hot, he didn't know if that is ok? 

Thanks again, thoughts much appreciated.  
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Coil should not be really hot, it's a sign of it breaking down.
I'd dbl check that the one you bought is the right coil, needs to be a ballast resistor type.
Also worth replacing the king lead (top of dizzy to coil) only £5 tops.

If that doesn't work I'd suspect the electronic module on the dizzy, they do break down, had to replace mine on the RR.
Since you don't have access to a strobe and multimeter it might be worth calling the tuning guy.
If it is the module they are not too expensive £35 ish.

Don't know the model you have fitted but there are quite a few suppliers eg:-

http://www.simonbbc.com/electronic-ignition-kits

If you have any questions etc please ask.
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!!A full points setup, cap, arm, points and condenser, for less than a tenner!!!..if it is the right one.

Proper bargain, and worth having in the toolbox.
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Thanks, it's the new coil that's hot, (as was the old one)  it's definitely a ballast resistor, has that written on it. Wonder why the coil is getting hot?

I can't find just one lead to buy online, seems to be sets, if anyone could point me in the right direction? 

Will try the lead and give tune up man a call. Thanks
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Check the rotor arm for cracks too!
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If it doesn't turn out to be the coil might be worth checking the wiring on the back of the ignition. If you have a dodgy connection it could cause it to just cut out like that.
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You can get a lead from any local car accesories, there's nothing special about them just need to be long enough. Take yours with you and they should have no problems matching it.

LTCampers bargain is just that even with £4 delivery on top.
Might be an option if the ignition module is suspect, go back to basics.

No idea why the coil is getting hot when new, but I'll do  a bit of googling.
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Tried it with a new lead this morning and same problem still, it only does it when warm but cuts out completely, but will restart immediately. 
Am I now looking at new parts in dizzy or new dizzy? Going to give the place a call in Andy's link, see how much I'm looking at for parts. Do I try new rotar arm and cap first? 
Desperate to get it going again, I need to use it for 2 days in a couple of weeks which will cost me £100 per day in lorry hire, so I'd rather spend the money sorting mine!
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Hmmm been googling "why is my coil getting hot" and I'm wondering if that is my problem? If the coil being so hot is causing the engine to cut out? Going to go for a drive with my spare coil, wait for it to cut out and try putting new coil on; although if this works, I have no idea how to rectify it! 
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I think we have done everything we can without a multimeter and strobe.
With both you can test the dizzy, the coil and all the wiring etc that goes with it.
Could be a loose connection somewhere or the ignition module, or the alternator supplying too many volts to the coil for example.
You have had 2 years trouble free running since you called the mobile guy out, I really would call him again before you fit any new parts.
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Yes you are right, thanks Andy. I will give him a call :)
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Good luck, and if you do need to find parts etc let us know.
Below is the detailed info for testing the dizzy:-

Dwell angle 44deg -50deg

Dynamic Timing 5deg BTDC at 850-950rpm.

Centrifugal advance:-
Commences 1100-1500rpm
12deg to 16deg @2400rpm
23deg to 27deg @3400rpm
Maximum 32deg to 36deg @4200rpm

Vacuum advance:-
Commences 100mm Hg
Maximum 17deg to 21deg 310mm Hg
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Thanks Andy, will print off and have with me when tune up man comes.
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Hello everyone, I thought I would come back to update this thread in case anyone else has same issues.
Got tune up man out who said it's definately an issue with the distributor. I ordered and fitted a new electronic conversion kit to the dizzy and it's all fixed now- had to get a different coil, a non ballast resist, as it doesn't have a condenser and points any more.

I'm hoping for a few more years of trouble free motoring from the old girl now!

Thanks for all your help :) 
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