1.9 to 2.1 conversion

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   Compared to some of the realy interesting coversions listed here I think my post is somewhat dull. I am not an advance mechanic (clutch / gearbox change is me at my limit). Quick question, how easy is it to convert a watercooled 1.9 to 2.1. I am no auto elecrician so is it just plugs and plumbing or is there serious wiring involved, and a new fuel pump. Advice please before I part with my hard earned cash

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Highchiro

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highchiro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 82	Topic: 1.9 to 2.1 conversion Posted: 01 Apr 07 at 19:58
	Compared to some of the realy interesting coversions listed here I think my post is somewhat dull. I am not an advance mechanic (clutch / gearbox change is me at my limit). Quick question, how easy is it to convert a watercooled 1.9 to 2.1. I am no auto elecrician so is it just plugs and plumbing or is there serious wiring involved, and a new fuel pump. Advice please before I part with my hard earned cash Thanks Highchiro
	Eugene

TRUNDLETRUC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 41	Posted: 09 Apr 07 at 20:11
	The 2.1 is fuel injected, the 1.9 is usually fed from a carb. Therefore you will need the rear wiring loom and all the fuel injection bits to put in the standard 2.1 engine. I beleive that some people have put in the 2.1 and used the carb? Trundletruc.
	Trundletruc

Dr Dub Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vanorak Joined: 28 May 05 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 1793	Posted: 13 Apr 07 at 00:32
	I will be removing a good 2.1cc motor with all wiring and pretty much everything you will need soon ? - hopefully available mid /end of may - shout if thats any good to ya.
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batty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 168	Posted: 13 Apr 07 at 22:51
	A friend of mine ( a bloody good qualified mechanic) converted my 1.9 injection Westy to a carb after having nightmare problems with an over fuelling issue and this works A1! We had to source all of the right ancilleries, hoses and pipework (from a great breakers called Vardys from Nottingham) and we had to remove blanking plates to install the inlet manifold and ancilleries, but after several nights of blood, sweat and tears the old girl fired up and drove better than when I first had her! We decided to disconnect the engine management and idle stabilizer keeping it 100 % mechanical and straightforward. The reason we didnt sort the injection system was due to being unable to find the exact problem (ECU and air flow meter were the culprits) and with these 2 parts hard to find (due to it being a pre 85 digijet) and expensive it was more cost effective to do a carb conversion which we knew would solve the solution with immediate effect! Enough of my ramblings!
	batty

T3ADICT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vanorak Joined: 21 Jul 05 Location: LeightonBuzzard Status: Offline Points: 4215	Posted: 13 Apr 07 at 23:23
	ive run a 2.1 on a weber carb conversion... ran great after rolling road time, jetting etc.. still gave over 100 bhp on the rolling road and that was taking care as the engine was only 700 miles old.... the gut i then sadly sold it to i belive tweeked a little more out of it with a better air filter setup.. and a up rated fuel pump.. the 2.1 will run on the orignal 2e3 carb but more fun to setup.. and they are often tired carbs now..
	WHY T3's.... because they are just so adictive, and having one just aint enough

highchiro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 82	Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 23:03

	Eugene

highchiro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 82	Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 23:05
	big thanks for all your help trundletruck gave me all the info I need. I have a donor 2.1 just the crank shaft seal to repair. Does anyone know of an oil pressure gauge kit to buy so that I can test my new engine, cheers highchiro
	Eugene

toomanytoys Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 26 Oct 06 Location: Lincolnshire Status: Offline Points: 119	Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 19:33
	you can 2.1 a DG easily and it works very well, I agree a rolling road session will get the best as will a weber carb, but its not needed if everything is in good nick.. a carb rebiuld kit is available from GSF for the 2e3 cheap enough and a good clean out of it should be done in anycase.. more info on this is on the Club 80-90 forum..

Dr Dub Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vanorak Joined: 28 May 05 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 1793	Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 00:23
	thanks for those who have mailed and called - a small queue seems to have developed for my engine - will post in for sale if anything changes.
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