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    Posted: 11 Sep 13 at 14:55
Hello,

I've just come across a problem pulling the rear wheel off this lt 35 horsebox I bought a few weeks ago. 

The rear wheel nuts and studs are damaged, I don't know if they were over tightened or were stripped with a air gun but there not really usable anymore. I've had a look on VagCat? but cant find the same model as I have. 

I own a 6 stud twin wheel axle with what measures as m18 studs, is there any where I can order these from to replace or has someone got a used rear hub for sale? I've spoken to my local VW dealer and they didnt come up with much.

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The wheel nuts are N 0201161 (Number 3, m18 x 1.5) and the wheel studs are 291501627C (Number 27, m18 x 1.5 x 70).  I've found my local VW dealers are a bit hit and miss on how helpful they can be as well.  I suppose I can see their point to a degree.  It can be difficult to find the part number and then half the time it's no longer available.
 
 
If they are no longer available in the UK try Brickwerks or Heritage VW.
 
 
 


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Thank you very much for the help.

Ive bought 6x wheel bolts from ebay this evening from the part number you gave me so they should be with me in the next few days now.

Just got to find some studs, ive seen some on ebay for £20 each Cry. I dont fancy paying £120 for 6 studs straight off unless i have no other choice, so as i've got an m18 die ill run it down the threads first just incase they clean up and can save 1 or 2 of them.

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Just had a look and he only has 5, which is a shame.  But it does have a best offer.   I shouldn't think people are beating down his door to buy them so you could make him a cheeky offer.  He could very well bite your hand off LOL
 
Try UK VW they might well be cheaper.  You could be pleasantly surprised.  I doubt it but one can hope.  This company sell a lot of different studs, one is m16 so they might have bigger if you give them a call?
 
 
Also found this,
 
 
Same thread size and length.  Well they are 3mm longer, which is better than shorter!  Not sure if you can weld?  You could put them in tightened up against the nut and a washer.  Then put a couple of good tacks on the back of each stud.  If there is room to get a welder of course and the shank lengths are similar.  I can't see how it's any different than the star part of the original stud.  The way I see it, it's just there to stop the stud turning and when the nuts tight there isn't any difference in the load placed on the stud.  Bit of a bodge but cheap.
 
 


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All sorted, the chap on ebay took a best offer on the wheel studs so thats enough for me to get on with this van for now :)

The bad news is the actual part number 291501627c has been discontinued since March.
I spent 3 hours this morning phoning dealers across the country. I was given half a dozen UK dealer numbers by VW commercial who may have had stock on the shelfs but no luck in finding any, one dealer found there is limited stock in Germany at £10 each stud plus P&P.

Id have never of thought these VW's would be difficult to get bits for.

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It's a lot of money for what is basically a bolt but at least your all sorted now.
 
The service parts and your general wear items like discs, wheel bearings etc are still readily available.  But the more specific stuff is getting harder and harder to source.  UK VW don't really seem to be interested and there's another thread at the moment where somebody has been offered all the UK stock of LT parts.
 
You can still get most of the stuff from Germany but it can be expensive and takes time.  The trouble is long term I very much doubt whether people will start re-manufacturing parts like with the Beetles etc because there aren't enough of them about.


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I think as time goes on we'll have to get ever more resourceful, like your suggestion of adapting other parts to fit. Obviously this will take longer than just fitting a part off the shelf, making everyday use more difficult. And those who are unable or don't have time to fabricate parts will either have to pay someone else to do the work, or move on to a different vehicle.
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Who is the main dealer concerned on the other thread !Angry
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What's up with a dealer on another thread? Or do you mean who did I speak to?

Grange over Sands were the dealers who found the parts in Germany. I've got there number some where but I'm sure it's on google.

I've actually re cut the original wheel studs I removed. They cleaned up well by running a 18x1.5 die down the threads, i can torque a new wheel nut to 150lbft so I've got 5 spares again. The wheel bolts must have been the softer material as they are scrap.


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Originally posted by 16v205 16v205 wrote:

What's up with a dealer on another thread? Or do you mean who did I speak to?

Grange over Sands were the dealers who found the parts in Germany. I've got there number some where but I'm sure it's on google.

I've actually re cut the original wheel studs I removed. They cleaned up well by running a 18x1.5 die down the threads, i can torque a new wheel nut to 150lbft so I've got 5 spares again. The wheel bolts must have been the softer material as they are scrap.


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don't worry not you,or the dealer its just we haven't heard from a member for a while now who started a promising thread just hope he is ok any news would be welcome .
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXCELLENT-ORIGINAL-GENUINE-PORSCHE-914-6-911-912-964-924-944-45mm-WHEEL-STUD-/360684872101

The above is what I bought, or similar as I think mine were a bit longer and they fit very well.
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